Re: Here's what's new in iOS 15.4 released today

[Andy Burnelli]

Jolly Roger wrote:

> The attacker would need to log in and be able to run code on the machine
> to be successful.

Apple's primitive iOS monolithic release mechanism is laughably archaic.

The difference between the ridiculously poorly designed iOS from all other
operating systems is that with _modern_ operating systems (e.g., Android,
Linux, & Windows) if they fix one line of code they don't have to release an
entirely redundant monolithic release stream to billions of people.

Only the iKooks don't realize how laughably _primitive_ iOS is designed.

[Hank Rogers]

Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> The attacker would need to log in and be able to run code on the
>> machine
>> to be successful.
>
> Apple's primitive iOS monolithic release mechanism is laughably
> archaic.
>
> The difference between the ridiculously poorly designed iOS from
> all other
> operating systems is that with _modern_ operating systems (e.g.,
> Android,
> Linux, & Windows) if they fix one line of code they don't have to
> release an
> entirely redundant monolithic release stream to billions of people.
>

One wonders why you use ios. Who forces you? You should rebel.

[Andy Burnelli]

Hank Rogers wrote:

> One wonders why you use ios.

After all these years you _still_ don't know why?

Even as I've said why I use iOS hundreds (maybe thousands) of times already?

OMG. Every statement from these ignorant iKooks proves me right about them.
a. All iKooks have an incredibly low IQ
b. All the iKooks suffer from abnormally low self esteem
c. And not one of them has any education to speak of

It's _why_ they fall for every Apple marketing trick in the book.

[Lewis]

In message <uGqYJ.108103$3jp8....@fx33.iad> Hank Rogers <ha...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Andy Burnelli wrote:

[nonsense]

> One wonders why you use ios. Who forces you? You should rebel.

The dipshit troll doesn't use iOS. It is simply here to be a fucking
cunt.

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For fixing things, dummy.

[Hank Rogers]

Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> One wonders why you use ios.
>
> After all these years you _still_ don't know why?
>
> Even as I've said why I use iOS hundreds (maybe thousands) of times
> already?
>

I haven't been here all these years. But, if you don't want to
reveal why you are forced to use ios, that's OK. I know you're
probably tired of having to explain it thousands of times.

[Andy Burnelli]

Lewis wrote:

> The dipshit troll doesn't use iOS.

Is there anyone else here, other than Lewis, who thinks I don't use iOS?

[Alan]

Hey...

...at least you self-identified as "the dipshit troll".

[Andy Burnelli]

Hank Rogers wrote:

> I haven't been here all these years. But, if you don't want to
> reveal why you are forced to use ios, that's OK. I know you're
> probably tired of having to explain it thousands of times.

I suspect very strongly so you are simply a sock.
Of whom, I'm not quite sure yet, but you are, in the end, just a sock.

I own _plenty_ of iOS devices, one of which I use frequently to check out
the claims by the iKooks and to refute the bullshit Apple marketing lies.

So the fact you don't _know_ this puts you on the same level as all iKooks:
a. Low IQ
b. No Education
c. Low self esteem

Why else would you be so upset to find out facts about Apple that you hate?

[Alan]

On 2022-03-16 1:59 p.m., The Dipshit Troll wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> I haven't been here all these years. But, if you don't want to reveal
>> why you are forced to use ios, that's OK. I know you're probably tired
>> of having to explain it thousands of times.
>
> I suspect very strongly so you are simply a sock.

Where as we know positively that you are just one of the latest socks
for (self-identified) "The Dipshit Troll" is first saw posting as "Arlen"

[Hank Rogers]

Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> I haven't been here all these years. But, if you don't want to
>> reveal why you are forced to use ios, that's OK. I know you're
>> probably tired of having to explain it thousands of times.
>
> I suspect very strongly so you are simply a sock.
> Of whom, I'm not quite sure yet, but you are, in the end, just a sock.
>

Then you must be a jock strap.

[Alan]

On 2022-03-16 2:09 p.m., Hank Rogers wrote:

From now on, he's "The Dipshit Troll" to me.

After all, he did self-identify with that name.

:-)

[Andy Burnelli]

Hank Rogers wrote:

> Then you must be a jock strap.

Question: Why am I here?
Answer: To prove the iKooks are liars using facts.

The iKooks like you never have any adult response to the facts.
a. Your IQ is too low
b. You lack the education
c. And your lack of self esteem prevents you from comprehending facts

What never fails is the iKooks resort to childish ad hominems whenever the
they have no _adult_ response to the facts.

You asked why I use iOS.
I told you why.

You should know the story that years ago I was an innocent iOS user around
iOS 7 days and I came here for help and the wholly unprepossessing iKooks
led me (and many others) on sadistic wild goose chases that were doomed to
fail.

In my entire life, I have never met people like these sadistic iKooks.

Their self esteem is so low that they feel _desperate_ to fabricate
functionality for iOS that simple doesn't and never existed.

Do you want examples?
Try this for just one:

Hilarious Snit video purportedly detailing iOS showing Wi-Fi over time
<https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo> iKooks can't even see the fatal flaw!

Question: Why am I here?
Answer: To prove the iKooks are liars.

[Alan]

On 2022-03-16 2:17 p.m., The Dipshit Troll wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> Then you must be a jock strap.
>
> Question: Why am I here?

Because you're The Dipshit Troll!

:-)

[Hank Rogers]

Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> Then you must be a jock strap.
>
> Question: Why am I here?
> Answer: To prove the iKooks are liars using facts.
>
> The iKooks like you never have any adult response to the facts.
> a. Your IQ is too low
> b. You lack the education
> c. And your lack of self esteem prevents you from comprehending facts
>

Would it help if I posted a picture of my books?

[Alan]

On 2022-03-16 2:17 p.m., The Dipshit Troll wrote:
>

> Do you want examples?
> Try this for just one:
>
> Hilarious Snit video purportedly detailing iOS showing Wi-Fi over time
> <https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo> iKooks can't even see the fatal flaw!

'How to check Wi-Fi signal strength on an iPhone

Install the AirPort Utility from the App Store.

Open the Settings app and scroll down until you see Airport Utility. Tap
on it, then tap Wi-Fi Scanner to enable this feature.

How to check Wi-Fi signal strength

Now run AirPort Utility and you should see a blue Wi-Fi scan option at
the top-right. Tap Scan and you’ll see all the Wi-Fi networks in range
of your iPhone.

How to check Wi-Fi signal strength

As continuous scan is the default, the values will change over time. You
can adjust the Scan Duration slider so the results only update for the
period you set.

Look at the RSSI value of your own network (which may not be top of the
list) and check the value.'

<https://www.techadvisor.com/how-to/network-wifi/check-wi-fi-signal-strength-3803538/>

So that's built-in.

[Alan]

On 2022-03-16 2:24 p.m., Hank Rogers wrote:

Nice one...

;-)

[Andy Burnelli]

Hank Rogers wrote:

> Would it help if I posted a picture of my books?

I don't think your coloring books will tell us much that we don't already
know about your lack of education.

All you iKooks suffer from the confluence of three traits:
a. Low IQ
b. No education
c. Low self esteem

You need all three to fall for the Apple marketing tricks.
For example, badgolferman and Ant and Steve aren't iKooks.

Of the iKooks who fall hardest, it's Alan Baker, Jolly Roger, & Lewis.
The ones on the top rung are Alan Browne, nospam, and Chris.

What differentiates them from the bottom rung is their IQ is higher.
Yet they lack the education and self esteem that all iKooks lack.

It's why they fall for every Apple marketing trick in the book.
(You must understand the low self esteem is a critical component.)

Simple _adult_ question for you, "Hank" sock:
Q: What is your college degree in (e.g., what was your undergrad major)?

[Hank Rogers]

Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> Would it help if I posted a picture of my books?
>
> I don't think your coloring books will tell us much that we don't
> already know about your lack of education.
>
> All you iKooks suffer from the confluence of three traits:
> a. Low IQ
> b. No education
> c. Low self esteem
>
> You need all three to fall for the Apple marketing tricks.
> For example, badgolferman and Ant and Steve aren't iKooks.
>
> Of the iKooks who fall hardest, it's Alan Baker, Jolly Roger, & Lewis.
> The ones on the top rung are Alan Browne, nospam, and Chris.
>
> What differentiates them from the bottom rung is their IQ is higher.
> Yet they lack the education and self esteem that all iKooks lack.
>
> It's why they fall for every Apple marketing trick in the book.
> (You must understand the low self esteem is a critical component.)
>

I can't figure out why an intelligent, educated person would hang
out with and trade insults with a bunch of ikooks.

You must get something out of it.

[Rod Speed]

Hank Rogers <ha...@nospam.invalid> wrote

He doesn't.

> Who forces you?

His family choose to use it.

> You should rebel.

He did.

[Rod Speed]

Andy Burnelli <sp...@nospam.com> wrote

> Lewis wrote

>> The dipshit troll doesn't use iOS.

> Is there anyone else here, other than Lewis, who thinks I don't use iOS?

I know you don't. So does nospam.

[Hank Rogers]

So, he's estranged from his family over telephones. That explains a
lot. Thanks.

[Rod Speed]

Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote

That was very late in its trolling.

[Lewis]

In message <hZsYJ.636$fV....@fx31.iad> Hank Rogers <ha...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> You must get something out of it.

Every time someone replies to him, he gets a tiny little chubby for a
couple of seconds.


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[Alan]

On 2022-03-16 8:27 p.m., Lewis wrote:
> In message <hZsYJ.636$fV....@fx31.iad> Hank Rogers <ha...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> You must get something out of it.
>
> Every time someone replies to him, he gets a tiny little chubby for a
> couple of seconds.
>
>

And that's the only thing that can make it happen, I'm sure...

[Steve]

Lewis wrote:
>
> In message <hZsYJ.636$fV....@fx31.iad> Hank Rogers <ha...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > You must get something out of it.
>
> Every time someone replies to him, he gets a tiny little chubby for a
> couple of seconds.

LOL

[Andy Burnelli]

Lewis wrote:

> Every time someone replies to him, he gets a tiny little chubby for a
> couple of seconds.

The adults (if any) on the child-like Apple newsgroups will note
the iKooks can never respond without _proving_ they own the mind
of a small child.

[Andy Burnelli]

Hank Rogers wrote:

> I can't figure out why an intelligent, educated person would hang
> out with and trade insults with a bunch of ikooks.

What you don't understand is that Dunning & Kruger studied the lemon juice
bank robber because they were fascinated by how his little mind worked.

They were intelligent, educated people who were studying specimens of
humanity that baffled them in their inexplicably immense ignorance.

BTW, you didn't answer the question of what your undergraduate degree is in.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2022-03-16, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
>
> 'How to check Wi-Fi signal strength on an iPhone
>
> Install the AirPort Utility from the App Store.
>
> Open the Settings app and scroll down until you see Airport Utility. Tap
> on it, then tap Wi-Fi Scanner to enable this feature.
>
> How to check Wi-Fi signal strength
>
> Now run AirPort Utility and you should see a blue Wi-Fi scan option at
> the top-right. Tap Scan and you’ll see all the Wi-Fi networks in range
> of your iPhone.
>
> How to check Wi-Fi signal strength
>
> As continuous scan is the default, the values will change over time. You
> can adjust the Scan Duration slider so the results only update for the
> period you set.
>
> Look at the RSSI value of your own network (which may not be top of the
> list) and check the value.'
>
><https://www.techadvisor.com/how-to/network-wifi/check-wi-fi-signal-strength-3803538/>
>
> So that's built-in.

Works great.

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[Sandman]

In article <t0vdfu$1jii$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli wrote:

> > Lewis:

Oh wow, this was an ironic post.

--
Sandman

[Sandman]

In article <t0tk52$1g40$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli wrote:

> > Hank Rogers:

> > Then you must be a jock strap.
>
> Question: Why am I here?
> Answer: To prove the iKooks are liars using facts.

Cool, when will you start? I'll get the popcorn.

--
Sandman

[Andy Burnelli]

Sandman wrote:

> I'll get the popcorn

Sandman is Alan Baker proving he owns the mind of a small child.
*The fact remains iOS uses a primitive monolithic release mechanism.*

To update a _single_ line of faulty webkit code, Apple has to update the
_entire_ operating system to _billions_ of users (which they do a lot!).

Notice the adult fact that NOBODY on this planet builds an operating systyem
as primitively monolithic as iOS is.

*Nobody else uses that primitive clusterfuck monolithic release mechanism*.
Just Apple.

Nobody else.

For example, Android is layers which area updated forever.
Yes, I said forever.

Most of Android is updated over the Internet nowadays (not by carriers).

The primitive iOS operating system is monolithic so for every single line of
code they have to fix for bugs that Apple never finds, they have to update
the _entire_ primitive monolithic operating system.

No wonder iOS updates so frequently.
It's filled with bugs.

Apple's QA is so atrocious they ship the same bug multiple times.
Again and again.

Why?
Apple's R&D is the lowest in all of high tech.

Why fix bugs when Apple can just claim in propaganda that iOS is safe.

[Alan]

No... ...it isn't.

It is more than every other company in the world except for perhaps half
a dozen.

[Alan laughing at Arlen]

On 2022-03-17 6:58 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> I can't figure out why an intelligent, educated person would hang out
>> with and trade insults with a bunch of ikooks.
>
> What you don't understand is that Dunning & Kruger studied the lemon juice
> bank robber because they were fascinated by how his little mind worked.

But of course, you count yourself as immune, right?

>
> They were intelligent, educated people who were studying specimens of
> humanity that baffled them in their inexplicably immense ignorance.
>
> BTW, you didn't answer the question of what your undergraduate degree is
> in.

So, precisely like you, then?

[Your Name]

You'll need to have a massive mountain of salt with it.

[gtr]

On 2022-03-17 15:18:04 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

>> So that's built-in.
>
> Works great.

How did you get running graphs for each nearby ap?

[Sandman]

In article <t0vohc$1d93$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli wrote:

> > Sandman:

> > I'll get the popcorn
>
> Sandman is Alan Baker proving he owns the mind of a small child.

Hey, my popcorn is going stale, when are you going to start?

--
Sandman

[Lewis]

In message <sandman-fa4f03573ef8...@individual.net> Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
> Hey, my popcorn is going stale, when are you going to start?

Please, every time you're going to reply to him imagine that little
chubby he gets and think again. Do you really want to be responsible for
the only sexual stimulation that obese naked troglodyte gets in his
life? Please, think of that image first.

--
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Margo: Life is pain. Ovary up.
Hyman: I am not a hero. I am a man tethered to a machine for poop and
humiliation, and I abhor it. I said good day.

[Chris]

Sweet or salty?

[Jolly Roger]

Considering Arlen's chubby is involved, I doubt you really want to
know...

[*Hemidactylus*]

Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2022-03-18, Chris <ithi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
>>> In article <t0vohc$1d93$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Sandman:
>>>>> I'll get the popcorn
>>>>
>>>> Sandman is Alan Baker proving he owns the mind of a small child.
>>>
>>> Hey, my popcorn is going stale, when are you going to start?
>>
>> Sweet or salty?
>
> Considering Arlen's chubby is involved, I doubt you really want to
> know...
>

I now hate popcorn. Thanks. It took this subthread to do that.

[Rod Speed]

Hank Rogers <ha...@nospam.invalid> wrote

No.

[Ant]

In comp.sys.mac.system Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2022-03-16, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
> >
> > 'How to check Wi-Fi signal strength on an iPhone
> >
> > Install the AirPort Utility from the App Store.
> >
> > Open the Settings app and scroll down until you see Airport Utility. Tap
> > on it, then tap Wi-Fi Scanner to enable this feature.
> >
> > How to check Wi-Fi signal strength
> >
> > Now run AirPort Utility and you should see a blue Wi-Fi scan option at

> > the top-right. Tap Scan and you???ll see all the Wi-Fi networks in range

> > of your iPhone.
> >
> > How to check Wi-Fi signal strength
> >
> > As continuous scan is the default, the values will change over time. You
> > can adjust the Scan Duration slider so the results only update for the
> > period you set.
> >
> > Look at the RSSI value of your own network (which may not be top of the
> > list) and check the value.'
> >
> ><https://www.techadvisor.com/how-to/network-wifi/check-wi-fi-signal-strength-3803538/>
> >
> > So that's built-in.

> Works great.

Ditto even when Airport isn't needed. It would be nice if there was one
for cellular since iPhone's Field Test Mode doesn't update in real time
in newer iOS versions. :(

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[Ant]

I think that's only in Android.

[gtr]

On 2022-03-18 21:28:32 +0000, Ant said:

>>>> So that's built-in.
>>>
>>> Works great.
>
>> How did you get running graphs for each nearby ap?
>
> I think that's only in Android.

How did the first two posters get the running graphs in iOS then?

[sms]

On 3/16/2022 2:26 PM, Alan wrote:

<snip>

> <https://www.techadvisor.com/how-to/network-wifi/check-wi-fi-signal-strength-3803538/>
>
>
> So that's built-in.

Yes, there is a Wi-Fi scanner hidden in the old AirPort utility but it's
very rudimentary.

If you want to a graphical representation you can do it on an iPhone but
you need an external device, the WiPry 2500x
<https://www.oscium.com/spectrum-analyzers/wipry-2500x> which is very
expensive.

What is infuriating is that apps for graphical representation of signal
strength used to be available on the Apple App store but were removed
for some unknown reason. Even the Jailbreak tweaks are no longer
available
<http://cydia.saurik.com/package/com.dynamicallyloaded.wififofumpro/>,
suggesting that updates of iOS caused the Jailbreak tweak to stop
functioning.

I detail this in #107a in the document
<https://tinyurl.com/iOS-Android-Features>.

---------------------------------------•-----------------------------------------
✓ 33 iOS & iPhone Features Which [many] Android Users Wish they Had ✓
✓ 141 Android & Android Phone Features Which [many] iOS Users Wish
they Had ✓

<https://tinyurl.com/iOS-Android-Features>

✓ 61 Pages of Extensively Referenced Information with Hundreds of
Citations ✓

✓ 100% Fact Checked ✓
---------------------------------------•-----------------------------------------

[nospam]

In article <t14vip$e38$1...@dont-email.me>, sms

<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:

> What is infuriating is that apps for graphical representation of signal
> strength used to be available on the Apple App store but were removed
> for some unknown reason. Even the Jailbreak tweaks are no longer
> available

the reasons are well known (apis changed) and the demand is
insufficient to bother writing new ones. this is particularly true with
modern wifi base stations that can auto-configure themselves in a mesh
configuration (or even solo).

that said, there's nothing preventing anyone from writing a super-fancy
graphical display, other than there's no return on investment, making
it not particularly attractive.

> I detail this in #107a in the document

more incorrect info, which you'll never correct.

[Jolly Roger]

You mean with Wi-Fi Sweetspots?:

<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wi-fi-sweetspots/id855457383?uo=4&at=11l6hc&app=itunes&ct=fnd>

[gtr]

On 2022-03-19 15:00:32 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

>>>>>> So that's built-in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Works great.
>>>
>>>> How did you get running graphs for each nearby ap?
>>>
>>> I think that's only in Android.
>>
>> How did the first two posters get the running graphs in iOS then?
>
> You mean with Wi-Fi Sweetspots?:
>
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wi-fi-sweetspots/id855457383?uo=4&at=11l6hc&app=itunes&ct=fnd>

Where's the running graph?

[Alan]

Why does that matter?

[Andy Burnelli]

Ant wrote:

>>> 'How to check Wi-Fi signal strength on an iPhone
>>>
>>> Install the AirPort Utility from the App Store.
>>>
>>> Open the Settings app and scroll down until you see Airport Utility. Tap
>>> on it, then tap Wi-Fi Scanner to enable this feature.
>>>
>>> How to check Wi-Fi signal strength
>>>
>>> Now run AirPort Utility and you should see a blue Wi-Fi scan option at
>>> the top-right. Tap Scan and you???ll see all the Wi-Fi networks in range
>>> of your iPhone.
>>>
>>> How to check Wi-Fi signal strength
>>>
>>> As continuous scan is the default, the values will change over time. You
>>> can adjust the Scan Duration slider so the results only update for the
>>> period you set.
>>>
>>> Look at the RSSI value of your own network (which may not be top of the
>>> list) and check the value.'
>>>
>>><https://www.techadvisor.com/how-to/network-wifi/check-wi-fi-signal-strength-3803538/>
>>>
>>> So that's built-in.
>
>> Works great.
>
> Ditto even when Airport isn't needed.

Ant,

iOS is clearly & obviously crippled compared to what Android can do here:
<https://i.postimg.cc/CKFhMZtS/signal03.jpg> celltower realtime location

I'm going to be honest with you... (I apologize in advance) because I've
covered everything in this thread for years and you Apple idiots are too
stupid to realize what Steve and I both know about how iOS is crippled.

Steve and I are well educated.
You're apparently not.

Hence, you literally don't even realize what "signal strength" means.
And that's just really horribly sad because we've explained it many times.

I repeat: I know you have a low IQ because we explained this many times.
And you still don't get it. None of the child-like Apple posters here do.

Only Steve gets it (and he's an EE, as am I).

You will never comprehend any related topic if you can't comprehend what
signal strength means in terms of either wi-fi or cellular radio signals.

However...

I realize you're not an iKook but your IQ is pretty low if you say that.
Even nospam, whose IQ is no better than 80, wouldn't claim what you said.
It's only Jolly Roger and Alan Baker (who together get to 80) who did.

Please exercise your brain when you say "ditto" as they're IQ 40 morons.
Even nospam doesn't know what signal strength is and his IQ is double that.

> It would be nice if there was one
> for cellular since iPhone's Field Test Mode doesn't update in real time
> in newer iOS versions. :(

Ant,

You clearly have a low IQ (as we've covered this in detail many times).
And you lack formal education (you don't know what "signal strength" is).

What saves you from being an iKook is you don't derive all of your self
esteem from the brilliant Apple marketing (unsupported) claims & gimmicks.
<https://i.postimg.cc/4xgmTTgm/wifi01.jpg> graphical radio debuggers
<https://i.postimg.cc/Hn05bQwG/wifi02.jpg> Cellular-Z by Jersey Ho

BTW, with respect to iOS always being shockingly crippled, note the free ad
free google free apps _also_ have cellular signal strength moving graphs:
<https://i.postimg.cc/xCbVQ2pj/signal02.jpg> cell signal strength graph
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they are always those people who lack education to tell the difference.

[Andy Burnelli]

nospam wrote:

> the reasons are well known (apis changed) and the demand is
> insufficient to bother writing new ones. this is particularly true with
> modern wifi base stations that can auto-configure themselves in a mesh
> configuration (or even solo).

I think it's interesting that you lie that the "demand is insufficient"
given there are more Android "Wi-Fi Signal Strength" apps than I want to
count (which, if you don't know this, then it's not a lie - it's ignorance).
<https://play.google.com/store/search?q=wi-fi%20signal%20strength&c=apps>

Either you lied.
Or you're stupid.
(Pick one)

What makes you an iKook, nospam, are the confluence of three traits:
a. You derive all your self esteem from supposed Apple capability
b. And yet, you lack the education to realize Apple lied to you
c. Worse, you lack the IQ to even comprehend what "signal strength" is

You _still_ think megabits per second are the same as decibels, nospam.
We covered this in detail _years_ ago - and you still haven't learned.

That's how I know your IQ can't be even close to what is an average IQ.
And I know you have low self esteem by the way you fabricate iOS apps.

None of the iOS apps you fabricate exist, let alone _can_ exist.
You are literally too ignorant about coding to even realize that fact.

On Android, the demand is _huge_ as there are _plenty_ of apps for that.
<https://i.postimg.cc/fLC4zcm6/wifi04.jpg> Many signal strength apps

Either way, you iKooks _hate_ that iOS is always so very crippled by Apple.

> that said, there's nothing preventing anyone from writing a super-fancy
> graphical display, other than there's no return on investment, making
> it not particularly attractive.

Yes there is.
You simply own too low of an IQ to realize why they don't exist on iOS.

This thread is proof of two facts I've learned about you iKooks:
a. Jolly Roger and Alan Baker own an IQ that is no higher than 40.
b. People like nospam are no higher than double that of those two.

None of you even know the difference between a decibel & a megabit/second.
--
I've never met people as abysmally stupid as these iKooks always are.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2022-03-19, gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:

The first and second screenshots show a running graph. It's also shown
in the video Arlen posted:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QaABa6DFIo&feature=youtu.be>

[gtr]

On 2022-03-19 21:54:12 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

>> Where's the running graph?
>
> The first and second screenshots show a running graph. It's also shown
> in the video Arlen posted:
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QaABa6DFIo&feature=youtu.be>

Does anyone else (like nospam maybe?) confirm what you are saying?

[nospam]

In article <t16a2p$jpe$1...@dont-email.me>, gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> >> Where's the running graph?
> >
> > The first and second screenshots show a running graph. It's also shown
> > in the video Arlen posted:
> >
> > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QaABa6DFIo&feature=youtu.be>
>
> Does anyone else (like nospam maybe?) confirm what you are saying?

that video does show a running graph, however, it's not signal strength.

it's very easy for an app to show a graph of whatever data source it
wants, moving or static.

[Jolly Roger]

The fuck? I downloaded Wi-Fi Sweetspots years ago and can confirm that
it shows a running graph from first-hand experience. And so could you if
you othered to install the app yourself. You don't need other people to
tell you anything about the app. It's a free app you can install in a
few seconds and run yourself. Are you just trolling?

[Jolly Roger]

On 2022-03-20, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <t16a2p$jpe$1...@dont-email.me>, gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>
>> >> Where's the running graph?
>> >
>> > The first and second screenshots show a running graph. It's also
>> > shown in the video Arlen posted:
>> >
>> > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QaABa6DFIo&feature=youtu.be>
>>
>> Does anyone else (like nospam maybe?) confirm what you are saying?
>
> that video does show a running graph, however, it's not signal
> strength.

Correct - it's throughput (bandwidth), but it's a running graph and as
you walk around your house, you cam see how it changes according to your
distance from the router.

> it's very easy for an app to show a graph of whatever data source it
> wants, moving or static.

Of course.

[sms]

On 3/16/2022 2:26 PM, Alan wrote:

<snip>

> <https://www.techadvisor.com/how-to/network-wifi/check-wi-fi-signal-strength-3803538/>
>
>
> So that's built-in.

You can't equate the Airport Utility, or "Wi-Fi Sweetspots" with an
Android App like Wi-Fi Analyzer
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer>.
The differences are stark.

I watched that video that was mentioned and whoever made it doesn't
understand the reality of what is required in such an app, and was just
making the video in an attempt to...well you know what it was an attempt
to do.

If someone really needs to be configuring Wi-Fi networks for optimal
performance (and few people have that need) then they can just buy a
cheap Android device that supports ac, n, g, a, and b, and use the
Wi-Fi Analyzer App.

For $60 you can buy a Samsung A03s to use, without cellular service, for
various Android apps for which there is no iOS equivalent. No Wi-Fi 6
(ax) on the lower cost phones yet, so if that's an issue you're up
around $300 unless you buy a refurbished phone (like one from the
Samsung Galaxy S10 family). We have two phones in the houses with
802.11ax, an iPhone SE2020 and a Samsung Galaxy S10E.

I recall when I was contracting for a company manufacturing complex
devices that used a GPS receiver inside. Because we could not use
external antennas, getting a GPS fix could take a while. Setup for the
device was faster if you could input the NMEA data when you received it
so we wrote an Android App for setup. Unfortunately, iOS doesn't allow
apps that provide the NMEA data so we could not do an iOS version of the
App despite repeated requests. The solution was to include a cheap
Android phone to run the app. At the time you could buy a locked
Tracfone device for around $20, and the device we sold was expensive
enough that $20 was not an issue. It would never be activated but it was
only needed to run Android apps not connect to a cellular network.

[nospam]

In article <t17nf6$pu4$1...@dont-email.me>, sms

<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:

> If someone really needs to be configuring Wi-Fi networks for optimal
> performance (and few people have that need)

supply and demand. developers have better and more lucrative things to
do than write an app few people need.

> then they can just buy a
> cheap Android device that supports ac, n, g, a, and b, and use the
> Wi-Fi Analyzer App.

no need, since modern wifi access points self-configure themselves, in
particular, the mesh units.

[gtr]

On 2022-03-20 10:50:30 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

>> that video does show a running graph, however, it's not signal
>> strength.
>
> Correct - it's throughput (bandwidth), but it's a running graph and as
> you walk around your house, you cam see how it changes according to your
> distance from the router.

Why did you say it showed a wifi signal strength graph if it didn't do that?

>
>> it's very easy for an app to show a graph of whatever data source it
>> wants, moving or static.
>
> Of course.

What app?

[gtr]

On 2022-03-20 07:48:59 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> The fuck? I downloaded Wi-Fi Sweetspots years ago and can confirm that
> it shows a running graph from first-hand experience.

Why did you say it showed wifi signal strength when nospam said it didn't?

> And so could you if
> you othered to install the app yourself.
> You don't need other people to
> tell you anything about the app. It's a free app you can install in a
> few seconds and run yourself.

I read what the app does and the app doesn't do what you said it did.

[Andy Burnelli]

nospam wrote:

> supply and demand. developers have better and more lucrative things to
> do than write an app few people need.

Why are you iKooks always making inane excuses for why Apple crippled iOS?

Why are there so many Wi-Fi & Cellular graphical debuggers on Android?
Why are there _zero_ iOS signal strength graphical WiFi/cellular debuggers?

You do not know why.
I do.

HINT: It's not the developers.

>> then they can just buy a
>> cheap Android device that supports ac, n, g, a, and b, and use the
>> Wi-Fi Analyzer App.
>
> no need, since modern wifi access points self-configure themselves, in
> particular, the mesh units.

Why are there _zero_ iOS signal strength graphical WiFi/cellular debuggers?

I know why.
You don't.

HINT: It's not the hardware.
--
I don't care iKooks are child-like with a low-IQ & no education & low self
esteem; but due to that, they're so confident in always being dead wrong.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2022-03-20, gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2022-03-20 07:48:59 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>> The fuck? I downloaded Wi-Fi Sweetspots years ago and can confirm
>> that it shows a running graph from first-hand experience.
>
> Why did you say it showed wifi signal strength when nospam said it
> didn't?

No, I didn't say that. You asked where people in this thread were
showing running graphs, and I pointed out the app that was showing
running graphs. And I also readily confirmed nospam's reply that the app
shows a running graph of network throughput as opposed to signal
strength afterward.

>> And so could you if you othered to install the app yourself. You
>> don't need other people to tell you anything about the app. It's a
>> free app you can install in a few seconds and run yourself.
>
> I read what the app does and the app doesn't do what you said it did.

You must be confusing me with someone else, because I never said it
showed signal strength.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2022-03-20, gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2022-03-20 10:50:30 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>>> that video does show a running graph, however, it's not signal
>>> strength.
>>
>> Correct - it's throughput (bandwidth), but it's a running graph and
>> as you walk around your house, you cam see how it changes according
>> to your distance from the router.
>
> Why did you say it showed a wifi signal strength graph if it didn't do
> that?

The real question is why you are claiming I said something I never said,
when anyone here can easily go back and look to see I never claimed the
app showed a signal strength graph? Stop with the lies, please.

>>> it's very easy for an app to show a graph of whatever data source it
>>> wants, moving or static.
>>
>> Of course.
>
> What app?

The WiFi Sweetspots app mentioned several times in this thread by others
before I reminded you of it seems to show a graph of what it wants quite
easily. It just happens to be a graph of network throughput rather than
raw signal strength, which I happen to think is just as (if not more)
useful.

[gtr]

On 2022-03-20 14:07:58 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

>> Why did you say it showed wifi signal strength when nospam said it
>> didn't?
>
> No, I didn't say that. You asked where people in this thread were
> showing running graphs, and I pointed out the app that was showing
> running graphs.

Your running graph was no more related to wifi signal strength than a
running graph of the iPhone accelerometer values would have been.

> shows a running graph of network throughput as opposed to signal
> strength afterward.

Your running graph was no more related to wifi signal strength than a
running graph of the battery charge capacity would have been.

>>> And so could you if you othered to install the app yourself. You
>>> don't need other people to tell you anything about the app. It's a
>>> free app you can install in a few seconds and run yourself.
>>
>> I read what the app does and the app doesn't do what you said it did.
>
> You must be confusing me with someone else, because I never said it
> showed signal strength.

Your running graph was no more related to wifi signal strength than a
running graph of the temperature of the iPhone would have been.

[gtr]

On 2022-03-20 14:12:46 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

>> Why did you say it showed a wifi signal strength graph if it didn't do
>> that?
>
> The real question is why you are claiming I said something I never said,
> when anyone here can easily go back and look to see I never claimed the
> app showed a signal strength graph? Stop with the lies, please.

Your running graph was no more related to wifi signal strength than a

running graph of the iPhone storage capacity would have been.

>>>> it's very easy for an app to show a graph of whatever data source it
>>>> wants, moving or static.
>>>
>>> Of course.
>>
>> What app?
>
> The WiFi Sweetspots app mentioned several times in this thread by others
> before I reminded you of it seems to show a graph of what it wants quite
> easily. It just happens to be a graph of network throughput rather than
> raw signal strength, which I happen to think is just as (if not more)
> useful.

If it's "very easy for an app to show a graph of whatever data source it
wants" then what app shows a running graph of ap's wifi signal strength?

[nospam]

In article <t18829$5qn$1...@dont-email.me>, gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> > shows a running graph of network throughput as opposed to signal
> > strength afterward.
>
> Your running graph was no more related to wifi signal strength than a
> running graph of the battery charge capacity would have been.

throughput is directly correlated to wifi rssi (and s/n).

battery charge is not, nor is motion or temperature, the other two
things you mentioned.

[nospam]

In article <t188c4$bt9$1...@dont-email.me>, gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:

>
> If it's "very easy for an app to show a graph of whatever data source it
> wants" then what app shows a running graph of ap's wifi signal strength?

the usual trolls have claimed that such an app is impossible on ios
because apple prohibits it. that claim is false.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2022-03-20, gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2022-03-20 14:07:58 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>>> Why did you say it showed wifi signal strength when nospam said it
>>> didn't?
>>
>> No, I didn't say that. You asked where people in this thread were
>> showing running graphs, and I pointed out the app that was showing
>> running graphs.
>
> Your running graph

As I pointed out in my very first post about it, the graph is from an
app that was previously mentioned in this thread and is not written by
me and is no way "mine". Sorry if you are easily confused, but that's
the truth..

>> shows a running graph of network throughput as opposed to signal
>> strength afterward.
>
> Your running graph

It ain't mine, and it was previously mentioned by someone else in the
thread - not me.

>>>> And so could you if you othered to install the app yourself. You
>>>> don't need other people to tell you anything about the app. It's a
>>>> free app you can install in a few seconds and run yourself.
>>>
>>> I read what the app does and the app doesn't do what you said it
>>> did.
>>
>> You must be confusing me with someone else, because I never said it
>> showed signal strength.
>
> Your running graph

*YAWN*

You're just trolling at this point. Boring. Feel free to continue on
your own. I'm sure you'll gleefully throw a petty, little Last Word
party in my honor, and you should definitely do whatever makes you feel
better. Laterz.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2022-03-20, gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2022-03-20 14:12:46 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>>> Why did you say it showed a wifi signal strength graph if it didn't
>>> do that?
>>
>> The real question is why you are claiming I said something I never
>> said, when anyone here can easily go back and look to see I never
>> claimed the app showed a signal strength graph? Stop with the lies,
>> please.
>
> Your running graph

It ain't mine, nor was I the first to mention it in this thread, bone
head.

> was no more related to wifi signal strength

As nospam mentioned, throughput is definitely correlated to signal
strength.

> than a running graph of the iPhone storage capacity would have been.

It's definitely more related than that. You're not too bright, are you?

[gtr]

On Mar 20, 2022 at 4:50:14 PM PDT, "Jolly Roger" <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2022-03-20, gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> On 2022-03-20 14:12:46 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>>
>>>> Why did you say it showed a wifi signal strength graph if it didn't
>>>> do that?
>>>
>>> The real question is why you are claiming I said something I never
>>> said, when anyone here can easily go back and look to see I never
>>> claimed the app showed a signal strength graph? Stop with the lies,
>>> please.
>>
>> Your running graph
>
> It ain't mine, nor was I the first to mention it in this thread, bone
> head.
>
>> was no more related to wifi signal strength
>
> As nospam mentioned, throughput is definitely correlated to signal
> strength.
>
>> than a running graph of the iPhone storage capacity would have been.
>
> It's definitely more related than that. You're not too bright, are you?

Just so we know who the bone heads are and aren't, I've been using gtr (it's
short for guitar) for 12-15 years on usenet. and I'm not whoever this bonehead
is who's copped my login.

[gtr]

I can't imagine what utility there is in camoflaging yourself in my ID (gtr
x...@yyy.zzz).

[gtr]

Yes, trolling under a false ID. What a dipshit.

[Jolly Roger]

The writing style has "Arlen" written all over it.

[Joerg Lorenz]

Am 21.03.22 um 12:44 schrieb Jolly Roger:

> On 2022-03-21, gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> Yes, trolling under a false ID. What a dipshit.
>
> The writing style has "Arlen" written all over it.

It took you a while ...


--
De gustibus non est disputandum

[Andy Burnelli]

Jolly Roger wrote:

> On 2022-03-16, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>> 'How to check Wi-Fi signal strength on an iPhone
>>
>> Install the AirPort Utility from the App Store.
>>
>> Open the Settings app and scroll down until you see Airport Utility. Tap
>> on it, then tap Wi-Fi Scanner to enable this feature.
>>
>> How to check Wi-Fi signal strength
>>
>> Now run AirPort Utility and you should see a blue Wi-Fi scan option at

>> the top-right. Tap Scan and you¢ll see all the Wi-Fi networks in range

>> of your iPhone.
>>
>> How to check Wi-Fi signal strength
>>
>> As continuous scan is the default, the values will change over time. You
>> can adjust the Scan Duration slider so the results only update for the
>> period you set.
>>
>> Look at the RSSI value of your own network (which may not be top of the
>> list) and check the value.'
>>

>><https://www.techadvisor.com/how-to/network-wifi/check-wi-fi-signal-strength-3803538/>
>>
>> So that's built-in.
>

> Works great.

On the original topic of wifi scanners, it's telling that the dumbest iOS
iKooks (Snit, Alan Baker & Jolly Roger) _still_ don't know the difference
between a megabit and a decibel (even after all these years).

They would be hilarious if they all weren't so sadly shockingly stupid.

The fact remains Apple's app store has _zero_ graphical wi-fi ap debuggers.
And the fact remains the app store has _zero_ graphical cellular debuggers.

Why the iKooks think otherwise is due to a confluence of three traits:
a. They are _desperate_ to garner "self esteem" from Apple "superiority"
b. Yet they have too low of an IQ to realize the functionality isn't there
c. Worse, they have no education at all so they fabricate that it exists
--
Note that it's mostly that the iKooks are _desperate_ to garner self esteem
from the supposed superiority of clearly grossly inferior Apple products.

[Andy Burnelli]

Jolly Roger wrote:

> On 2022-03-20, gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> On 2022-03-20 10:50:30 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>>
>>>> that video does show a running graph, however, it's not signal
>>>> strength.
>>>
>>> Correct - it's throughput (bandwidth), but it's a running graph and
>>> as you walk around your house, you cam see how it changes according
>>> to your distance from the router.
>>
>> Why did you say it showed a wifi signal strength graph if it didn't do
>> that?
>
> The real question is why you are claiming I said something I never said,
> when anyone here can easily go back and look to see I never claimed the
> app showed a signal strength graph? Stop with the lies, please.
>
>>>> it's very easy for an app to show a graph of whatever data source it
>>>> wants, moving or static.
>>>
>>> Of course.
>>
>> What app?
>
> The WiFi Sweetspots app mentioned several times in this thread by others
> before I reminded you of it seems to show a graph of what it wants quite
> easily. It just happens to be a graph of network throughput rather than
> raw signal strength, which I happen to think is just as (if not more)
> useful.

[Andy Burnelli]

nospam wrote:

>> If it's "very easy for an app to show a graph of whatever data source it
>> wants" then what app shows a running graph of ap's wifi signal strength?
>
> the usual trolls have claimed that such an app is impossible on ios
> because apple prohibits it. that claim is false.

And yet, the app you claim is on the app store simply doesn't exist.

[Alan]

On 2022-03-22 9:18 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> On 2022-03-16, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 'How to check Wi-Fi signal strength on an iPhone
>>>
>>> Install the AirPort Utility from the App Store.
>>>
>>> Open the Settings app and scroll down until you see Airport Utility.
>>> Tap on it, then tap Wi-Fi Scanner to enable this feature.
>>>
>>> How to check Wi-Fi signal strength
>>>
>>> Now run AirPort Utility and you should see a blue Wi-Fi scan option
>>> at the top-right. Tap Scan and you�ll see all the Wi-Fi networks in
>>> range of your iPhone.
>>>
>>> How to check Wi-Fi signal strength
>>>
>>> As continuous scan is the default, the values will change over time.
>>> You can adjust the Scan Duration slider so the results only update
>>> for the period you set.
>>>
>>> Look at the RSSI value of your own network (which may not be top of
>>> the list) and check the value.'
>>>
>>> <https://www.techadvisor.com/how-to/network-wifi/check-wi-fi-signal-strength-3803538/>
>>>
>>>
>>> So that's built-in.
>>
>> Works great.
>
> On the original topic of wifi scanners, it's telling that the dumbest iOS
> iKooks (Snit, Alan Baker & Jolly Roger) _still_ don't know the difference
> between a megabit and a decibel (even after all these years).

We do know that megabits per second is the actual metric that matters...

[nospam]

In article <t1ct3u$fsk$4...@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:

> > On the original topic of wifi scanners, it's telling that the dumbest iOS
> > iKooks (Snit, Alan Baker & Jolly Roger) _still_ don't know the difference
> > between a megabit and a decibel (even after all these years).
>
> We do know that megabits per second is the actual metric that matters...

not necessarily. it depends what the goal is.

but there isn't a need to manually scan and measure anything since
modern wifi access points can auto-configure, notably mesh units, doing
a much better job than humans can because they can continually adapt as
conditions change, such as a new neighbor adding a new access point.

[sms]

On 3/22/2022 9:22 AM, Alan wrote:

<snip>

> We do know that megabits per second is the actual metric that matters...

Who is "we?" Anyone that "knows" that is incorrect.

Mb/s is not the proper metric to use when you're setting up a Wi-Fi
network in large facility like a hotel, convention center, airport,
big-box store, etc., or even a house.

Signal strength is the more important metric since you're trying to set
up a Wi-Fi network that works for a variety of Wi-Fi devices, each of
which contains a different receiver chip and antenna setup. You want to
set things up for maximum signal strength which is not the same as
setting things up for maximum speed.

You can buy a handheld Wi-Fi spectrum analyzer but a flagship Android
phone with 802.11ax,ac,n,a,b/g and use one of the Wi-Fi analyzer apps
(see
<https://www.netspotapp.com/wifi-analyzer/wifi-analyzer-apps-android.html>).

Someone with a big house (or with a large lot if the want outdoor Wi-Fi
coverage) may want to use a Wi-Fi analyzer app in order to best
position, and to minimize the number of wireless routers needed to cover
the property.

[nospam]

In article <t1d2hb$29m$1...@dont-email.me>, sms

<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:

>
> Mb/s is not the proper metric to use when you're setting up a Wi-Fi
> network in large facility like a hotel, convention center, airport,
> big-box store, etc., or even a house.

anyone doing that won't be using a phone. they'll have professional
equipment, or they'll use modern hardware that auto-configures.

> Someone with a big house (or with a large lot if the want outdoor Wi-Fi
> coverage) may want to use a Wi-Fi analyzer app in order to best
> position, and to minimize the number of wireless routers needed to cover
> the property.

a much better idea is get a mesh system and let it auto-configure
itself. some include a bundled app, for both ios and android.

[Andy Burnelli]

nospam wrote:

>> We do know that megabits per second is the actual metric that matters...
>
> not necessarily. it depends what the goal is.

While nospam is right that the subject of this thread says "WiFi Signal
Strength", which is measured in decibels, it's clear that the IQ === 40
iKooks Snit, Jolly Roger, and Alan Baker don't know what a decibel is.

Even Steve knows what a decibel is.
This would be funny if we didn't cover this many times over the years.

That's further evidence that these iKooks are unfathomably stupid people.
a. These iKooks have an incredibly low IQ (Alan Baker & JR can't be over 40)
b. They have no education whatsoever (they don't know what a decibel is)
c. And yet, iKooks garner all their self esteem from fabricating the
imaginary superiority of Apple's crippled iPhones in terms of
their lack of ability to graph wifi signal strength for all visible
access points over time (which _all_ other consumer OS's can do).

Only iOS lacks this capability.
Even Ant knows this.

But not Snit, Jolly Roger, or Alan Baker.

> but there isn't a need to manually scan and measure anything since
> modern wifi access points can auto-configure, notably mesh units, doing
> a much better job than humans can because they can continually adapt as
> conditions change, such as a new neighbor adding a new access point.

The fact remains Apple's app store has _zero_ graphical wi-fi ap debuggers.
And the fact remains the app store has _zero_ graphical cellular debuggers.

All the fabrications in the world by the IQ 40 iKooks can't change that fact
(this hilarious video by Snit underscores how incredibly stupid they are)
<https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo> iKooks can't even see the fatal flaw!

Note that nospam seems to have learned, in the intervening years, what the
difference is between a megabit and a decibel, which is why I say his IQ is
at least double that of the 40 IQ iKooks Snit, Alan Baker & Jolly Roger.
--
I don't care iKooks are child-like with a low-IQ, no education & low self
esteem; but due to that, they're so DK confident in always being dead wrong.

[Andy Burnelli]

nospam wrote:

>> Mb/s is not the proper metric to use when you're setting up a Wi-Fi
>> network in large facility like a hotel, convention center, airport,
>> big-box store, etc., or even a house.
>
> anyone doing that won't be using a phone. they'll have professional
> equipment, or they'll use modern hardware that auto-configures.

REFERENCE: Oct 10, 2017, 8:50:05 AM
*It's a fact iOS devices can't even graph Wi-Fi signal strength over time*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/PZuec56EWB0>

REFERENCE: Oct 13, 2019, 4:42:03 PM
*What freeware graphical Wi-Fi debugging tools do you use on Android*
*& iOS to graph signal strength for available APs over time?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/QlDr3oeZExA>

REFERENCE: Feb 27, 2022, 7:40:43 PM
*One reason iOS is crippled compared to Android*
*is there are no iOS graphical Wi-Fi debuggers*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/ZnkwZkstzlQ>

REFERENCE: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 14:26:22
*Want to check WiFi signal strength over time on your iOS device?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/36qAVc7QXpE/m/-sIXvCTgAwAJ>

The topic of this thread wasn't written by me but by some idiot who
fabricated that apps existed in the Apple App Store to graph Wi-Fi Signal
Strength over time on the iOS platform.

The fact remains Apple's app store has _zero_ graphical wi-fi ap debuggers.
And the fact remains the app store has _zero_ graphical cellular debuggers.

It is worth making the point that _only_ iOS lacks these graphical debuggers
since every other common consumer platform has them (except crippled iOS).

It is also worth noting that the iKooks are so incredibly stupid that they
don't ever learn, even as these _same_ iKooks were on the original threads!

Who is _that_ stupid but these 40 IQ iKooks Snit, Jolly Roger & Alan Baker.